tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3178366214524455884.post7217196084121000852..comments2024-03-26T08:06:19.661-04:00Comments on The Road Less Travelled: #MicroblogMondays: "Probably Mom"??? loribethhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09272814565916935113noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3178366214524455884.post-5005142499744311312019-02-21T09:59:07.560-05:002019-02-21T09:59:07.560-05:00I have "Women & Power" in my TBR pil...I have "Women & Power" in my TBR pile! loribethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09272814565916935113noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3178366214524455884.post-21035903121821543902019-02-21T08:08:38.370-05:002019-02-21T08:08:38.370-05:00Ughhhhhhh. You're totally right that it's...Ughhhhhhh. You're totally right that it's not a mom/non-mom problem. It's definitely a woman problem. I just finished reading "Women & Power: A Manifesto" by Mary Beard and she talks about the silencing of women in classical Greco/Roman/historical context - that the simple act of *speaking in public* was considered unwomanly and how in classical literature men hasten to silence women's speech (and how that's still playing out today). <br /><br />I would also agree that women who do not have children are often silenced even more than women in general. Because speaking out on behalf of children is one of the few places women (sometimes) can accrue a bit of following/power. It's definitely limited in scope and tends to be more honorific than actual (and, in the US, is often limited to white women rather than women of color), but it's a real thing. So I hear you on that one for sure. I wish the meme was written to be more inclusive of *all* women - because it definitely applies. Inconceivable!http://inconceivable12.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3178366214524455884.post-32978333325466294742019-02-19T03:31:10.121-05:002019-02-19T03:31:10.121-05:00I agree. It's not about the mom or non-mom, it...I agree. It's not about the mom or non-mom, it's just women problem. But I think however the quote/meme is written for joke. It doesn't relate with mom or non-momBouncing and Cherubichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02342874613270325197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3178366214524455884.post-16804504838786142952019-02-18T22:39:19.476-05:002019-02-18T22:39:19.476-05:00Ugghhhh. I agree that it could apply to a teacher,...Ugghhhh. I agree that it could apply to a teacher, as just the other day I said, "I feel like I'm talking to myself... Hello?" And I was only 1/4 kidding. But there are LOTS of marginalized people who aren't listened to, not just mom's, and they Mom voice is often loud. Not necessarily heard by thirty kids, but by the rest of the world through "as a mother" or "Mommy club" type comments. Women aren't listened to as a whole, but childfree women? Our voices tend to get squashed in conversations about, oh, the future of our planet, politics, the state of education, reproductive rights, etc. Argh. I get your ire!Jesshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15868505568965284742noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3178366214524455884.post-57920363685373135512019-02-18T16:30:04.869-05:002019-02-18T16:30:04.869-05:00Your last paragraph is definitely where I would st...Your last paragraph is definitely where I would start. If you're a woman, it is definitely harder to get people to listen to you. And depending where you are, maybe it is harder to be listened to if you're a mother. (As I've often said, my SIL discovered partners in her law firm stopped talking to her about cases, and started talking to her only about kids when she became a mother.)<br /><br />But again, you've nailed it. There's no discussion about the idea that if you're not a mother, you're also ignored. Your life and its value as well as your opinions. And especially, people parents are never going to listen to anything you have to say about families or children, regardless of whether you are making sense or have a valid point of view or are an expert or not.Malihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03928262526502319303noreply@blogger.com