I thought the interviewer & the guests hit all the right notes:
- the continuing bonds one feels to children who are dead, or who never arrived in the first place;
- how you live with infertility every day of your life, whether or not you ultimately succeed at building a family;
- how the pain rises up at various, often unexpected times;
- the ugliness of envying others for their families.
Have a listen, here. It's about 10 minutes long. (And if you do, tell me: is there a pink cartoon sheep icon on your screen?? Gave me a chuckle...)